[tahoe-dev] barriers to using tahoe

Jody Harris imhavoc at gmail.com
Wed Feb 3 17:45:30 UTC 2010


After a great deal of reflection, I have two recommendations that should be
minimal for developers, but make the greatest leap toward usability for
users.

 - SMB by default for Windows
 - FTP by default (localhost) for *nix

With these already built services available by default, with clear
documentation for attaching to them, users would immediately be able to use
Tahoe in a local directory-type manner.

The high latency of Tahoe-LAFS should be stressed in all documentation.

Thoughts?

jody
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- Contra mundum - "Against the world" (St. Athanasius)
- Credo ut intelliga - "I believe that I may know" (St. Augustin of Hippo)


On Tue, Feb 2, 2010 at 11:27 AM, Jody Harris <imhavoc at gmail.com> wrote:

> What are the problems with making a fork of Twisted with the fix Tahoe
> needs to implement FTP, then moving back to Twisted trunk once the required
> patch is available there?
>
> Is this even a possible option for making Tahoe FTP available immediately
> without having to push off the Twisted patch onto users?
>
> jody
>
> ----
> - Think carefully.
> - Contra mundum - "Against the world" (St. Athanasius)
> - Credo ut intelliga - "I believe that I may know" (St. Augustin of Hippo)
>
>
> On Mon, Feb 1, 2010 at 2:04 PM, Jody Harris <imhavoc at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On Mon, Feb 1, 2010 at 1:42 PM, Peter Secor <secorp at allmydata.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Have you tried the FTP interface that is available? This can be easily
>>> mapped using Windows File Explorer, and if the network is local then you
>>> don't have to worry about unencrypted file transmission. There is also
>>> SFTP support.
>>>
>>> http://allmydata.org/trac/tahoe/browser/docs/frontends/FTP-and-SFTP.txt
>>>
>>> It is set up on the production network: ftp://prodftp.allmydata.com and
>>> uses your normal login/pass. You can also easily enable it on your local
>>> node to try it out. Just modify the tahoe.cfg to enable FTP, point at an
>>> authentication server, return a base URI root-cap, and you're off!
>>>
>>> Ps
>>>
>>
>> Peter, I think that the FTP gateway would be a good first step.
>> Unfortunately, the instructions in the url above fail for the tahoe
>> installed from from Ubuntu 9.10 repositories.
>>
>> "Failed to load application: your twisted is lacking"
>>
>> With a working FTP, and a default alias, many users would be able to "just
>> use tahoe" than are able to at this point.
>>
>> This is broken FTP implementation a "feature" of the 9.10 build?
>>
>> jody
>>
>
>
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