[tahoe-dev] barriers to using tahoe

Jody Harris imhavoc at gmail.com
Thu Feb 4 23:57:30 UTC 2010

I'm not as opposed to showing globally unique identifiers as you are. I'm
also not optimistic about having good, fluid drag-and-drop in a web
interface. Doing good, clean drag-and-drop in the web would be a major

That said, a "good user experience" for Tahoe seems to be creeping farther
away rather than drawing nearer.

- Think carefully.
- Contra mundum - "Against the world" (St. Athanasius)
- Credo ut intelliga - "I believe that I may know" (St. Augustin of Hippo)

On Thu, Feb 4, 2010 at 4:50 PM, James A. Donald <jamesd at echeque.com> wrote:

> Jody Harris wrote:
> > Barriers continued....
> >
> > These are comments from my users:
> >
> >    (Speaking of command line...) "cryptic they are. They need to move
> more
> > of the functionality into the web gui and do automatical aliasing and
> show
> > that in the web GUI.  At least the top and maybe first trees in the
> > structure."
> >
> >    "...why not include a web app - complete with logins and groups?"
> >
> >    "Interesting decision not to include [a web wrapper]...seems an
> obvious
> > oversight?"
> >
> > These users seem to have very little patience for understanding the
> broader
> > context of what tahoe was designed for.
> >
> > Perhaps I'm just trying to roll this out in the context of the wrong
> users.
> I suspect that any user will have similar reactions to a tool that
> shoves globally unique identifiers in his face.
> What I interpret these users as requesting, when they ask for a "web
> app" or a "web wrapper", that does "automatical aliasing" is a web page
> that they can log into (thus obtaining their root capability) and on
> that web page they see the "aliases" (petnames, links) for the
> capabilities that they have already created, and they can drag and drop
> files onto that web page, thereby creating more capabilities,
> represented by more "aliases" (user petnames)
> I think "automatical aliasing" may perhaps mean the same thing as I mean
> when I say, "never show an end user a globally unique identifier."
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