Re: Tahoe-LAFS featured in “Why the command-line is not usable”

Justin Stottlemyer justin.h.stottlemyer at gmail.com
Wed Apr 8 17:56:50 UTC 2015


I think that it's really the difference between a dev / hacker / grad
student deployment and and widespread use cases.

Even if you look at some of the emails that this list sees from
developers trying to spin up Tahoe in what I would consider the most
basic model there are questions that wouldn't come from a more easily
used product.

This isn't something that is generally headed to anything outside of a
Dev Ops model for quite some time. (IMHO)

- Justin

On Wed, Apr 8, 2015 at 10:47 AM, David Stainton <dstainton415 at gmail.com> wrote:
> I think this just means that for the people who do not know or like
> command line tools, they will use the easier to use interface for
> Tahoe-LAFS (which doesn't exist yet).
>
> On Wed, Apr 8, 2015 at 5:14 PM, John <jschiel at flowtools.net> wrote:
>> Long time lurker on this project and I'm hoping it succeeds.
>>
>> Hmm, sorry, how can anyone claim to be an "expert" reviewer if you don't
>> know how to do command line?
>>
>> GUI isn't the answer for everything. Just because you don't know how to do
>> command line functions doesn't make command line bad.
>>
>> --John
>>
>> On 04/08/2015 10:40 AM, Tony Arcieri wrote:
>>
>> That looks like a pretty old version of Tahoe. It doesn't even have the
>> redesigned status page I did.
>>
>> On Wed, Apr 8, 2015 at 9:32 AM, Zooko Wilcox-OHearn
>> <zooko at leastauthority.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Folks:
>>>
>>> You might be interested in this video in which Gus The Usability
>>> Hacker added annotations on top of Taylor's instructional video about
>>> how to use Tahoe-LAFS:
>>>
>>> http://gandre.ws/blog/blog/2015/04/07/why-the-command-line-is-not-usable/
>>>
>>> Please don't angrily lash out at Gus about this! We asked her to help
>>> by telling us her opinion of Tahoe's usability. I hope that we'll get
>>> into a virtuous feedback loop with her in which we make more changes
>>> to Tahoe (hopefully for the better!) and she gives us more ideas about
>>> usability design issues. You folks being polite and encouraging to her
>>> would probably help.
>>>
>>> The bit about Lovecraftian horror is pretty funny.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>> Zooko Wilcox-O'Hearn
>>>
>>> Founder, CEO, and Customer Support Rep
>>> https://LeastAuthority.com — Freedom matters.
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>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Tony Arcieri
>>
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